MAKING HIS MARK IN CLAY
AN INTERVIEW WITH NICK PARK,
Creator of Wallace and Gromit and Co-Director of DreamWorks and Aardman's
WALLACE & GROMIT: THE CURSE OF THE WERE-RABBIT
© 2005 Ron Barbagallo

Nick Park poses with his plasticine creations -- Wallace and Gromit.
On October 7, 2005, Wallace and his faithful dog Gromit, the much loved duo from
Aardman's Academy Award® winning clay-animated Wallace & Gromit shorts, star in an all new comedy adventure -- Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit.
In an interview exclusive to this web site, Nick Park shares some of his thoughts
regarding his artistic influences, how he uses drawing to start
telling a story, and what it was like to bring everyone's favorite
plasticine duo to the big screen for the very first time.
Nick Park:
It's really a dream come true. Wallace and Gromit were my college creations,
and it is quite something to think that they are starring in their first
full-length feature film.
I look back on having made the three shorts as if they are, in a sense, like
making smaller feature films, so the feature seemed like the next
actual step. I guess because I found what was great about working
in the medium -- how you can light it, how to do camera work. It
satisfied many things for me.
But at the same time I was a bit cautious because sometimes what works in short
films works because they are short. I was cautious on how to get
there, how to make that step which is partly why we did Chicken Run first.
I was waiting for the right idea to come along that was big enough and simply
expansive enough to suggest a full-length movie. An idea that had
the potential for an 80-minute film with character development and
story but also was inspiring enough to sustain me through for the
next four or five years.

Directors Nick Park (left) and Steve Box (right) reviewing storyboard panels.
Once you decided you wanted to move forward with planning a movie for Wallace
and Gromit, how did you start your production?
Nick Park:
After I’ve come up with the initial idea -- you know this whole idea of exploring rabbits
-- Bob Baker, the writer and I were sitting in a pub in Bristol and we got
this lightning strike of an idea -- what if it were a were-wolf movie, but
with a big funny rabbit instead eating vegetables instead of people and develop
it for Wallace and Gromit? After that I decided to develop it with a guy I
was going to co-direct it with named Steve Box who worked with me on Wallace & Gromit: The Wrong Trousers. He animated Feathers McGraw.
We sat there typing it and as we were typing, one of us would be drawing, or
vice versa, or the other one would be making a mock up model in clay
while we were writing. So it all went on at the same time.
Then there was a certain point when we stopped writing, where the script becomes
very visual and we went into storyboard for most of the writing time
actually. We spent a couple of years storyboarding. We'd shoot the
boards and then put them into a digital edit system. We put our own
voices on, temporary music, some sound effects and edit the whole
thing.
It would be very rough, but those storyboards would become our story reel. We’d constantly be editing from that. Redrawing stuff, trying to make acts better,
trying to find scene structures that were better. Sometimes we’ll throw out the whole scene and decide we don’t need it or add a scene somewhere. It remains a very organic, constantly rolling
process to the end of the movie.
It's like making a sketch, really, refining lines, going back and bringing certain
qualities forward, deciding if sometime works or not?
Nick Park:
Yeah, that’s what we show to Jeffrey [Katzenberg] every few weeks. They make comments and
our other writer Mark Burton would come in and think up some better
lines of dialog. We’d have a brainstorming meeting over a scene and think -- how can we make this
scene funnier? How can we make the story point a bit quicker? You
know, that kind of thing. It gives an overall sense of the shape
of the movie above all as well. Obviously in this kind of film
making we can’t afford to shoot stuff we don't use and we did end up not using a couple of
minutes worth.




Concept drawings and story sketches by Nick Park and Steve Box. All black and
white sketches
above are by by Nick Park. Color sketch, second from the top, is by Steve Box.
How would you describe your take on storytelling? What sort of things did you
look at while growing up that you feel influenced you as a filmmaker?
Nick Park:
The Wallace & Gromit movies I made were always referencing other film genres outside of animation.
Films that I loved all the time. Hitchcock films, film's like (David
Lean's) Brief Encounter and I equally love the work of Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, Tom and Jerry cartoons
and Disney films. I grew up on all these films.
I’ve always loved slapstick comedy. I love Buster Keaton and all the Laurel and
Hardy films. Maybe that’s where I got Gromit looking at camera and giving us kind of a knowing look to
the audience. Maybe from Oliver Hardy the way he would seem so "give me strength" -- you know, put upon, looking for sympathy.
I’ve always loved book illustration as well, and collected comic books. In the 70’s and 80’s I read graphic novels, like Hergé’s Adventures of TinTin and the illustrated books of Raymond Briggs. He did a book called Father Christmas and Fungus the Bogeyman which were popular in the UK. I love that graphic and chunky style that he had
where everything is rendered. He also did The Snowman, which was later turned into animation.
I always loved those 1950’s shapes, all post World War II. I love a lot of that stuff, too. I used to watch
Ray Harryhausen's Mother Goose Stories. He did one called Hansel and Gretel (1951) years before. I love that and that kind of holiday animation that was
on TV.
A lot of ideas I have are inspired by those kind of things, those kinds of aesthetics.
I guess it’s the satisfaction of everything I love coming together, you know, Jules Verne
stories, H. G. Wells, TinTin Adventures and Laurel and Hardy comedy kind of all coming together but with the atmosphere
of a Hitchcock movie.
What is the role of drawing in your films?
Nick Park:
I always start off by drawing. I start off with visual ideas. It’s what started off my film
A Grand Day Out. I started drawing this rocket, and I thought it would be great to just build
to it. That’s one of the sort of things that attracted me to 3D really. The chance to build
something like this rocket in this big cigar shape and cover it with rivets.
Years ago, at college, a lot of my illustrations, the ones I did when I wanted
to illustrate books and do the stories were done as just illustrations.
So, I've always started off by drawing, drawing nice shapes really
that I liked.

Concept drawing by Nick Park of Gromit in the Greenhouse.

Nick Park directing the very same scene from the above drawing of Gromit in
the Greenhouse.

The finished frame of film of Gromit in the Greenhouse.
When did you start to take the world of your 2D drawings into the world of 3D
claymation? Was it while you were in college creating drawings?
Nick Park:
Yeah. It was really. Sometimes I thought, well, should I do this in 2D? Then
I thought it’s such satisfaction making them in clay. The idea that you can make them three-dimensional,
so that they had their own natural perspective. You can light it
and all. I love that world. There’s a certain other-worldliness. It’s like an almost other reality but it’s not.
And, while I’m interested in clay I think I wanted to take claymation more into the area of
story. You know use it for like a bigger thing, than just an animation
affect. With clay animation you can treat it like a cartoon really
because of all this squash and stretch. Yet you’re working with all these cinematic live action elements, tools and devises:
lighting and camera work, drama.
That's why going to film school was so great because it really educated me about
movie making. The more films I saw, the more I could learn.

A camera lens captures a still frame of stop motion animation.
Where there any changes in materials or technology you had to make to take Wallace
and Gromit to the big screen? Any changes to the clay you were
using for the shorts?
Nick Park:
No, it’s the same old stuff really [a special blend of Plasticine, nicknamed "Aard-mix" which is slightly more durable than ordinary Plasticine]. I was really keen
to keep the feeling of the short films in there. I didn’t want to think that just because it’s become a feature film to suddenly get slicker or you know smooth or anything
or have another visual quality. I wanted to keep the hand-made
quality that’s its always had.

Scenic Artist, Fred Grey reviews the night sky backdrop.

Gaffer, Richard Hosken and Director of Photography Tristan Oliver prep the "Woods" set.
Are your backgrounds still hand-made sets with fully painted backgrounds behind
them, or were they done digitally this time?
Nick Park:
No, the backgrounds are all be real sets with painted backdrops. Even if we blue-screened
or shot Gromit against a green screen when there’s a real effect in the background. You know like when they’re flying along and stuff like that.
We did use digital technology sometimes to create effects, like fog, you know,
and even then we didn't always do that digitally, because you can’t animate fog. The smoke would move. Sometimes after a shot we would take the
figures out and do a run where we added smoke. Then digitally lay
that in afterwards; or we'd create smoke digitally, like for a kettle
boiling or a flame on a cooker.
At certain times, some of the bunnies in the Bun-Vac 6000 were put in digitally.
But we were keen that they would look like they were made of plasticine.


Key Animator, Ian Whitlock posing the rabbits for a shot.
With Peter Jackson having made the decision to use digital technology to create
King Kong in his upcoming film of the same name, did it ever occur
to you to do the same? In the original film Willis O'Brien used
hand made 3D animation to create Kong.
Nick Park:
It’s funny that you should mention that, because we could have done our Were-Rabbit
using CGI because you can do such great fur and everything. But
we just chose to do it more in keeping with Wallace & Gromit and do it in the old way -- make a big fur puppet and animate it, harking
back to King Kong because of the sympathy the animator was able
to put in his eyes, in his facial expressions. He was the force
of antagonism, a beast; and yet you felt so strongly for him. We
were trying to tap in on that kind of quality and didn’t mind if the fur was a little moppy or twitches a bit, like in King Kong, really.


Character designs of the Were-Rabbit by Nick Park (top).
Color concept design and storyboard of Were-Rabbit on the run by Mike Salter
(bottom).
Did you base the characters of Wallace and Gromit on anyone in particular? Did
you have a dog?
Nick Park:
No, I never had a dog. Gromit is the only family dog I’ve ever had.
You've known Wallace and Gromit for sixteen years now. Was there anything about
them you didn't know, that you learned about them while making
the movie?
Nick Park:
[laughs] I suppose there is, because in a way they sort of write their own stories
these days. It’s the beauty of having established characters. They take on a life of their own
and you’re waiting for them to tell you the story in a way.
I think, if anything, I learned just how far I can you push them. That in their
own way, they're an elderly couple. They know each other so well,
a love/hate relationship. But it's a deep-seeded love relationship
and at the end of the day, they will look out for each other. So
we were able to push Gromit’s loyalty to the extreme. And, also, it occurred to me while making the film,
that Gromit is always trying to change Wallace, you know; Gromit
had to face [the question] how much can you change someone?

Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit makes its
US debut on Friday, October 7, 2005.
All images are © DreamWorks Animation SKG and Aardman Features. Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit is distributed by DreamWorks Distribution LLC.
The author would like to thank Nick Park, Fumi Kitahara, Ella Robinson, Ray Morton
and Dave Koch for their help.
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